Talk:Premier
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How come that this is a separate article? Should it not be merged with Prime Minister and made redirect? --romanm (talk) 10:03, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The article appears to suggest that in Italy (for example) one can choose between saying "Italian Premier" and "Italian Prime Minister". This is surely misleading. "Premier" is an English word. The same choice of terminology may or may not exist in Italian. And the British Prime Minister (for example) can also be called a "premier", though this usage (to refer to the PM of an English-speaking country) is possibly less common.
In Canada the head of the province of Quebec has the title of Prime Minister of Quebec, not to be confused with the Prime Minister of Canada. I believe other Canadian provincial leaders also occassionally use Prime Minister as their title, but this article doesn't make that clear.
In English, we NEVER call the head of ANY province "Prime Minister", although historically some PMs of Canada were called "Premier" interchangeably. The fact that Quebec uses Premier Ministre in French sounds, to English ears like a claim that Quebec is an independent country, like using "National" assembly for the provincial assembly, and "Fete National" for the provincial holiday (St. John the Baptist's Day, actually). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.81.243.140 (talk • contribs).
- But "prime minister" is sometimes used by the Government of Quebec whether we like it or not. Also, "prime minister" used to be used in other provinces in formal setting. The Frost Building, a Government of Ontario building in Toronto, is dedicated in memory of "Leslie Miscampbell Frost, Prime Minister of Ontario" on a plaque in the lobby. Ground Zero | t 13:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- In Britain there's a Welsh National Assembly, and Northern Ireland formerly had its own Prime Minister, but was never independent. -86.134.90.205 20:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- French-Canadians have been using the term "premier ministre" for "premier" since Confederation (and maybe before), so it's certainly not some new Quebec-nationalist innovation. That said, the question of how to translate "premier ministre" into English can certainly be political. Quebec nationalists will occasionally use "prime minister of Quebec" to make a rhetorical point. --Saforrest 17:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
why is there a different paragraph for the Australian states? they are subnational entities where the premier is referred to in the Constitution as the Prime Minister.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.32.6 (talk) 08:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Canadian Territories?
[edit]In the Yukon, NWT and Nunavut, arnt the Premeirs formally "Government Leaders"
I dont know how this workds but why doesnt it say what a premier does. I cant find it anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.140.140.241 (talk) 21:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Statement about Canadian French
[edit]The article said this:
- In Canadian French, provincial leaders are known as "premiers ministres", which translated literally means "first minister". A loose translation is "prime minister".
A loose translation?? FFS, it's not a loose translation! In French: "first minister", "prime minister", and "premier" are all the same damn word: premier ministre. Read into that whatever you want; it's true. I'm changing the text. --Saforrest 17:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Statement about Croatia
[edit]In Croatia official title is President of the Government (Predsjednik Vlade), unoffically called Premier by the press , BUT NEVER EVER Minister-President as the article mentions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.112.243 (talk) 02:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)