Wikipedia talk:Utilities

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• Wikipedia:Project namespace
Because this page is not frequently watched, present and future discussions, edit requests and requested moves should take place at:
• Wikipedia talk:Project namespace

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Wikipedia:Topical index was copied or moved into Wikipedia:Utilities with this edit on 00:30, 16 April 2004. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Keep this page

I couldn't think of any reason why this page shouldn't stay as it was, and exist alongside Wikipedia:Topical index. I think it is useful in its own right. Some users may not want a list of all articles in the Wikipedia namespace. -- Tim Starling 00:34, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)

I moved some of the redirects back to this location. If you find an intermediate-size index helpful too, I suppose that's a reasonable justification for its existence. It needs considerable updating in some places, though. --Michael Snow 20:11, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Is "Guidelines", rather than (key) policy, isn't it? Alai 04:13, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes, the Manual of Style is a guideline, per the {{MoS-guideline}} template at the top of it. – Wbm1058 (talk) 13:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Significant links to this page

Recent changes [1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by BenAveling (talk • contribs) 10:50, 3 December 2005
- Well, Special:RecentChanges would only link to this page if it was actually recently changed (like it will be for a short time after I click the Save page button) – but I suppose you meant that Special:RecentChanges should be added to the list of Wikipedia utilities on this page? Wbm1058 (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of links to this page

Start with the fact that over 25,000 User talk pages link here, mostly because someone added a template which included a link to Wikipedia:Utilities to the talk page of new users. Some recently, as not all of these userspace templates have been kept updated. – Wbm1058 (talk) 13:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Some 480 User: pages link here, including User:Ashlux/Welcome and User:Piotrus/w. Some of these pages are still actively being substituted to new users' talk pages. Once a link becomes this entrenched, it's hard to get rid of. – Wbm1058 (talk) 14:21, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User:Kukini/Welcome was changed to link to Tools instead. – Wbm1058 (talk) 14:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There's just one template namespace template linking here, {{Welcomesg}}. Seems that its author copied without attribution, as Kukini's predates it. Wbm1058 (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Wikipedia:Project namespace

With so many pages linking here, I don't see dumping them onto a historical page which is only of interest to historians and researchers as a good idea. Note that discussion of the history of Wikipedia utilities begins at Wikipedia talk:Topical index. There you see that the index to the Wikipedia project namespace originated at Wikipedia utilities, before there even was a project namespace. Wikipedia utilities, which soon became Wikipedia:Utilities, was billed as a repository for pages that are useful to "doing things" in Wikipedia, for the benefit of regular editors and contributors. Isn't that what the project namespace is for? Now, one might argue that the main index, or "portal" into the project namespace is Wikipedia:Community portal. However, I'm redirecting to Wikipedia:Project namespace, where a brief mention of its origins as Wikipedia utilities can be made. – Wbm1058 (talk) 22:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]