Talk:Chapel

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Sorry, Hepahaestos, I'm afraid we just clashed! I renamed Chapels to Chapels of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, because that's what it was about, but while I was doing that, you quite reasonably moved the text of Chapels to Chapel. That means we now have a useless, empty article with a very long name. I hope someone will come along and delete it. -- Heron

BTW - The corect term for the structure in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is meetinghouse, with a chapel normally being only one of several rooms in the meetinghouse. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 16:41, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

This article had a strongly UK Catholic POV; I'm hoping that after some changes it retains those contributions while opening the terminology of the word to other uses with Protestantism. Deadsalmon 06:07, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

The picture of catholic small wayside chapel in a village in Malta of historcal importance was remove in an unacceptable manner. Maltesedog 06:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Church hall

Is this the same thing as a church hall? What is a church hall? (I do not mean hall church). Punctured Bicycle 05:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

no, a church hall is usually a building (or area within a single building containing the church too) which the church uses to hold various social functions, it's often let out to other local groups during the week. Often fulfils a function similar to a village hall. David Underdown 09:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Punctured Bicycle 17:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Christian Orthodox?

Why no mention of the oldest Christian chapels, the Christian Orthodox ones? Predates Catholic and certainly Protestant chapels. There is often a bias and/or ignorance of the original Church (Byzantium) and it's history in the United States and, to a lesser extant, Western Europe. In the spirit of objectivity I think the Orthodox history should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.210.225.54 (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Cathedral of the Pines

I think we should have an article on the Cathedral of the Pines, and list it here as a notable chapel; any thoughts? J S Ayer (talk) 01:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Irish

The word also appears in the Irish language in the Middle Ages, as Welsh people came with the Norman and Old English invaders to the island of Ireland. While the traditional Irish word for church was eaglais (derived from ecclesia), a new word, séipéal (from cappella), came into usage.

I'm not really sure how the above paragraph is relevant to the history of chapels. And, if it is, the process of transmission isn't very clear. What have Welsh people got to do with it? I would suggest this is removed as an unnecessary tangent to the article. If someone is particularly attached to the idea of its inclusion, it needs clarifying and citations adding. Psammead (talk) 20:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Internet chapel

An anonymous IP has been repeatedly adding text about "internet chapels" on this article and other places, such as internet church, church service, multifaith space, and others. The early edits seemed to be a clear case of spamming links to a particular website (see this edit, for example) which I believe the anon IP is associated with. The more recent edits, while not explicitly spammy, still appear to be a coatrack for the website and concept. Doing a quick google search, I can find only two instances of "internet chapel" (the search is a bit muddled due to false hits about internet services in areas with names that include "chapel"). I do not see evidence that "internet chapel" is a notable enough concept or neologism, which is different than the concept of "internet church" or "cyberchurch". If the concept is worth mentioning, please provide reliable sources to help ensure this is not a case of WP:UNDUE or WP:COI. --FyzixFighter (talk) 21:34, 25 December 2019

There are references to internet chapels beyond google searches, which is not valid and reliable. While there are disagreements on substance as to whom is connected to what, there is an increase in the use of the internet for chapel work. The most valid and reliable outcome is to indicate the use of the internet for chapel services. The continuing edit of an edit is similar to peer-review in academics, which is clearly not going to happen in this case. However, for a consensus, it appears we can lead to an "internet" use for chapels and that will suffice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.175.21.168 (talk) 02:25, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Um, no I would not say we have a consensus as such. I would agree with you that the concept of internet church is notable and well documented in reliable sources and online religious services are a subset of what it includes. What we don't have are reliable sources that call any part of this an "internet chapel" or "internet chapel work" - "religious services", yes, but I have not seen any reliable sources that support any variations of the text you have repeatedly proposed. Hence, WP:UNDUE applies and even though at least one example of an "internet chapel" exists, we don't generally include it because the concept has received no coverage in reliable sources. Can you provide reliable, secondary sources that support the text you would like to add? This would help greatly in resolving the editing disagreement. --FyzixFighter (talk) 12:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok, it is time to stop. There are multiple referenced sources that support my position. This entire dialogue supports my position that Wikipedia is valid, but not always reliable. I wish you the best in your quest for your academic pursuits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.175.21.168 (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Father of the chapel

In the UK and Australasia, a trade union in the related fields of printing and journalism is referred to as a chapel, for historical reasons which, even in the admission of those who can be expected to know a good deal about the subject, are unclear. And the shop steward in such an organisation is, for the same obscure reasons, known as the father (or, as the case may be, the mother) of the chapel. Given that this article covers uses of the word rather than purely discussions regarding the substance of the term chapel, mention ought at least to be made of this sense, and the stub article Father of the chapel.

Nuttyskin (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2020 (UTC)