Talk:Ezri Dax
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[edit]- Although Jadzia had been married to Commander Worf, Ezri chose not to pursue that relationship; instead, she began a liaison with Dr. Bashir.
This touches upon an inconsistency in Deep Space Nine regarding the taboo of Trills' re-associations with people from past lives. In the episode "Rejoined", Jadzia couldn't have a romantic relationship with Lenara Kahn because they had been married in past lives. In the story, it had nothing to do with their being both women. So when we get to Ezri, did she really have the option to stay married to Worf? ShutterBugTrekker 14:26, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- When you say, "In the story, it had nothing to do with their being both women.", you probably realize that in real life this was the real objection to their love scenes. The whole concept of the taboo of reassociation was merely a plot contrivance to create an allegory.
- As for Ezri and Worf, if I remember correctly, Ezri kept trying to talk to Worf, but he didn't want to listen to her. (I have Season 7 of Deep Space Nine on dvd, I just haven't gotten around to watching it). Robert Happelberg 22:18, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Perhaps the taboo on reassociation only applies to other Trills? - Montrealais
- That would explain why/how Jadzia and Sisko could still be friends, inspite of his past associations with Curzon. Maybe the Trill, like the Drazi (extra credit for he who gets the allusion) haven't updated their laws recently enough to allow for associations with alien species. Actually, I just wondered how the rules would apply with non-joined Trill, but that's really a moot point, isn't it? --cuiusquemodi 15:20, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good explanation. But I don't get the Drazi allusion. ShutterBugTrekker 22:38, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I think the Drazi (alien race from Babylon 5) allusion would refer to their form of a national election: basically a civil war between two randomly chosen groups of Drazi. Whichever half of the population won got to lead their civilization for another term, or something like that. Since the rules apparently applied to all Drazi regardless of where they were, and the Drazi apparently never thought to tell anyone beforehand why they all spontaniously started killing each other, places with a substantial Drazi population, like Babylon 5, got to deal with a small war that they weren't prepared for and didn't really like too much. That's my interpretation anyway. Matt Keleher 19:02, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
- In the DS9 episode "Penumbra", Ezri and Worf sleep together on an uninhabited planet after a crash landing (this is also the episode where she discovers she loves Julian and that the Breen have joined the Dominion). Worf asks her about the rule forbidding Trills to become intimately involved with people of past relationships and she responds "I bet you've broken a few Klingon rules in your time." The whole matter is latter moot because she loves Bashir so nobody need know about their tryst on the planet. I agree that it was treated too casually (considering the original made it out to be a very serious thing (though that was to make a point)), but it was commented on. 69.3.92.105 8 July 2005 17:53 (UTC)
Name
[edit]Several times I've seen her name as Ezri-Dax ... is this not the correct way of writing this? --Froth 01:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
No, just as wrong as "Ben-Sisko". ConnertheCat 00:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
dax is the symbiote.76.10.183.219 (talk) 19:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Terry Farrell
[edit]"The role of Ezri Dax was created when Terry Farrell (who played Jadzia Dax) decided to leave the show"
This directly contradicts a [quote from Farrell on IMDB]: About being killed off on Star Trek:
"I begged the producers not to kill me. They thought I was just being this neurotic little actress hoping to have a part to come back to, but I really meant it. I didn't want to see six great years end that way".
Cicatrix (talk) 02:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
No, there is no contradiction. Farrell really left the show by her own request. She just didn't want the "Jadzia Dax" character to be killed. 92.224.154.53 (talk) 20:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 18:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I wanted to make my 100th GA review special, so I decided to set upon one of my favourite DS9 characters. I should have this up within a day, but I might become inactive after Boxing Day, even so I'll complete this review. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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Initial comments
[edit]- The lead is slightly too lengthy for an article this size - but it does summarise the article well, so I couldn't suggest anything to cut down. It's up to you if you feel like it needs shortening
- Should 'last appearance' be in the infobox?
- There isn't actually the option to include it - it was discussed at the project a while back but the consensus was not to add it because it brought up issues around canon/non-canon works. Miyagawa (talk) 22:43, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- "Ezri Tigan was born in 2354 on the planet Trill, a member of the indigenous species" - makes it sound like the planet itself was a member
- I switched the sentence around to fix that issue. Miyagawa (talk) 22:43, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- "Because of her new state, Ezri's romantic relationship with Finok ended" - who is Finok? Even I can't remember who this is
- Never appeared on screen - I changed it to "former boyfriend". Miyagawa (talk) 22:43, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- "However, Damar (Casey Biggs), the leader of the Cardassians" - Cardassian Union or the rebels?
- At the time he was still leader of the Union, so added that. Miyagawa (talk) 22:43, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
References
[edit]- All the references are in working order, except one external link but I tried it and it's fine
- All the citations are in the correct places, so this too meets the GA criteria. No problems here
- "At the time, de Boer was busy working in Canada but an unknown in the United States" - doesn't make sense, was she unknown as an actress in the US?
- That's right, I've changed it to say that. Miyagawa (talk) 22:43, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
On hold
[edit]This is a well written article, it is comprehensive, well referenced and I even learned some things I did not know about her character. I couldn't find many, but the only things I could find wrong with it were what I mentioned above, if all of those could be addressed quickly then this article should have no problem passing the GAN. I'll put this on hold for the standard seven days despite something telling me it won't need that! ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:53, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, I think I've covered everything. Miyagawa (talk) 22:44, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Close - promoted
[edit]Thanks for addressing them so quickly, this article now definitely meets the GA criteria. I also made a mistake in putting one of the comments under the 'references' section, but it doesn't matter. Anyway, well done on another Trek GA! ☠ Jaguar ☠ 23:28, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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