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What about the 7,652 yards long Rivelin Tunnel?

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The http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=7453 website has an article that first appeared in the Transactions of The Hunter Archaeological Society and is reproduced by kind permission of the Society. The tunnel also gets a mention on the http://research.ncl.ac.uk/hydroinformatics/rbhd/derwent/upper.html page and the http://www.jnbentley.co.uk/345/rivelin.html page (but they call it the Dewent Tunnel; I have emailed them with a suggestion they correct their page). It deserves a mention in the list, but where should it be placed? It starts in Derbyshire but the outfall is in South Yorkshire. I am sure other tunnels connect different counties. Is 'county' a good choice for a table column?

--Waugh Bacon (talk) 04:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Data dumps - to be added to article.

→==Road tunnels== 

Tunnel	                Length          Road
Mersey Queensway       3237 m          
Thames                 2930 m
Mersey Kingsway        2483 m
Limehouse Link         1800 m
Rotherhithe            1705 m
Tyne                   1645 m          A19
Dartford	        1436 m          A282
Hatfield               1400 m          A1
Blackwall              1362 m          A102
Worthing-Lancing       1200 m          A27
Conway                 1089 m          A55
Meir                   1000 m          A50
Pen-y-Clip             930 m           A55
Cargo                  885 m	
Ramsgate               800 m
Clyde                  760 m           A739
Medway                 725 m           A289
Bluetown               715 m
Holmesdale             650 m           M25
Penmaenbach            642 m           A55
Heathrow airport       628 m
Epping	                600 m           M25
Queensway              548 m
Central Library        500 m
Bell Common            450 m           M25
St.Helier              420 m			
Cuilfail               420 m           A26
Manchester airport     400 m           A538
Southwick Hill         390 m
Saltash                370 m           A38
Westgate               367 m           A58
Roundhill              365 m
Strand underpass       365 m
Brynglas               362 m           M4
Chestfield             320 m
Park Lane              314 m
Woodpecker             298 m           A58
Meir                   280 m           A50
Fort Regent            253 m
Hanger Lane            241 m           A40
Victoria avenue        237 m           A658
Lancaster Circus       197 m           A34
St. Chads Circus       192 m           A38
Gibraltar Hill         185 m           A40
Matthew Murray         160 m
Well Hall              156 m           A2
Bluewater Quarry       75 m
East India Dock

Railway tunnels

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Abbotscliffe 1 mile, 182 yards (1776m)
Anderston 1 mile, 1010 yards (2533m)
Belsize Fast 1 mile, 11 yards (1619m)
Belsize Slow 1 mile, 107 yards (1707m)
Blea Moor 1 mile, 869 yards (2404m)
Box 1 mile, 1452 yards (2937m)
Bradway 1 mile, 267 yards (1853m)
Bramhope 2 miles, 241 yards (3439m)
Caerphilly 1 mile, 173 yards (1768m)
Channel Tunnel 31 miles, 635 yards (50470m). Up tunnel is 50.448km (31m 611yds)
Chipping Sodbury 2 miles, 924 yards (4064m)
Clay Cross 1 mile, 24 yards (1631m)
Clayton 1 mile, 499 yards (2066m)
Corby 1 mile, 160 yards (1756m). Freight only
Cowburn 2 miles, 182 yards (3385m)
CTRL London Tunnel East 6 miles, 293 yards (9924m). Under construction, no official name
CTRL London Tunnel West 4 miles, 1209 yards (7543m). Down tunnel is 7.529km (4m 1194yds), under construction, no official name
Disley 2 miles, 346 yards (3535m)
Dove Holes 1 mile, 1224 yards (2729m). Freight only
Ffestiniog 2 miles, 338 yards (3528m)
Glaston 1 mile, 82 yards (1684m). Freight only
Kilsby 1 mile, 666 yards (2218m)
Liverpool Central 1 mile, 1172 yards (2681m). Excludes spur from Paradise Junction to Derby Square Junction
Llangyfelach 1 mile, 193 yards (1786m). Freight only
Lydden 1 mile, 609 yards (2166m)
Mersey 4 miles, 462 yards (6860m). James Street-Birkenhead Park via loop.
Merstham Old 1 mile, 71 yards (1674m)
Moorgate 2 miles, 572 yards (3742m)
Morley 1 mile, 1609 yards (3081m)
Newton Street 1 mile, 351 yards (1930m)
North Downs Tunnel 1 mile, 1738 yards (3199m)
Oxted 1 mile, 501 yards (2067m)
Patchway New Tunnel 1 mile, 0 yards (1609m)
Penge 1 mile, 381 yards (1958m)
Polhill 1 mile, 851 yards (2387m)
Ponsbourne 1 mile, 924 yards (2454m)
Quarry 1 mile, 353 yards (1932m)
Sapperton Long 1 mile, 100 yards (1701m)
Sevenoaks 1 mile, 1693 yards (3157m)
Severn 4 miles, 628 yards (7012m)
Sough 1 mile, 255 yards (1843m)
Standedge 3 miles, 64 yards (4887m)
Stansted Airport 1 mile, 184 yards (1778m). Also known as Coopers Lane
Strood 1 mile, 569 yards (2130m)
Summit 1 mile, 1125 yards (2638m)
Sutton 1 mile, 176 yards (1770m)
Thames Tunnel 1 mile, 990 yards (2515m). Under construction
Totley 3 miles, 950 yards (5697m)
Watford Fast 1 mile, 55 yards (1660m)
Watford Slow 1 mile, 230 yards (1820m)
Wymington 1 mile, 110 yards (1710m). Freight only, also known as Sharnbrook

Railway tunnels

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I've added (above) all railway tunnels greater than 1 mile, according to my own data, and put the distances on the article page for tunnels already listed. This may disagree slightly with distances quoted within the articles - I haven't checked these. I've done a bit of tidying, and tried to get a consistent presentaion, however this is crying out to be put in table format, if anyone has the knowledge and time to do this. Sadly at the moment I have neither!--Tivedshambo (talk) 21:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Change heading

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If nobody objects i'm going to change the 'transport type' to just 'type', as some of the tunnels are used for telephone exchanges and air raid sheleters... Williams119 (talk) 22:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lists put into talk

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The article is now flagged as incomplete. I was minded to make a new template saying "singularly incomplete". All the stuff above should be in the article or in a sandbox, not in this Talk. "history" suggests some of the lists have sat here for a considerable time.--SilasW (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Separate metric and imperial columns

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If nobody objects, I propose separating put metric and imperial measures. The metric column will be sortable and will be strictly in metres, the imperial will be non-sortable and will have miles or miles and yards as appropriate. Martinvl (talk) 12:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup required

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I've been making some changes to this page, but it raises some issues in my mind to make the page both accurate and useful.

  • It needs to be definitive. I have found some gaps, but I suspect there are many more.
  • The fields need populating
  • County names are innaccurate, especially for Wales
  • Spliting into the constituent nations would aid navigation and checking
  • We need a way of dealing with tunnels which quite frequently have ends in different counties

I will continue to update. I have a separate list of tunnels that I will compare. welsh (talk) 11:02, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coords

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I've been playing with coords on this article, as has Andy. Couple of questions: I decided to tag a London Heathrow tunnel with two coords, one for each portal. And then Norwood in Derbyshire with 3 coords. And I'm using small coords, AndyM is using normal sized (and has decided views on these things ;). What do we make of either of these things? If we have tunnels that are difficult to figure out from a centrepoint, should we use the two portals and maybe the centre point? Or does that make the page too lengthy? But then, couldn't we find three short lines of text to describe each tunnel? Is small an accessibility sin, and if so, why? Infoboxen seem to have smaller text in them. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If we are going to have coordinates, then we need to use a small script - I don't thuink that anybody will actually read the coordinates, but they might well click on them. I agreee that the number of coordinates poses a problem, possible the mid-point between the portals (which is not neccessarily the midpoint of the tunnel - the Hindhead Tunnel for example follows a 60o arc. One could of course log the midpoint and either the approximate direction of the portals (N,S) or the direction of the tunnel in the range 0o to 180o. This would enable the user to find the portals using the midpoint info. Martinvl (talk) 07:49, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revocations of 29 January 2013

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I revoked User:Stevo1000's changes for the following reasons:

  • HS2 tunnel under Manchester - This is still WP:CRYSTAL - it needs to pass the public inquiry and a government bill needs to be passed before work can begin. I do not think that this tunnel should be included in this list until the government is committed to its construction.
  • Channel Tunnel - I have added a note stating that a significant part of the tunnel is actually in France. If we want to include numbers, then we should include the sections under the sea as well as the sections under land - which is what we do with the Severn Tunnel. BTW, is the Severn Tunnel in England or in Wales?

Martinvl (talk) 07:53, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Severn estuary is in Wales - England's side is just mudflats. Because the navigable channel, 'the Shoots', is close to the Welsh side, the tunnel is quite asymmetric. It has to go deep only just offshore from Sudbrook, Wales, but the English side is so shallow that it once broke through at wading depth. To maintain a reasonable railway gradient, the Welsh side thus needs a fair length of landward tunnel (and a substantial cutting) and even then it's much steeper heading that way than the other. As is infamously well-known, digging the landward tunnel caused (and still does) much more trouble than the underwater section did.
The tunnel does join England and Wales though, unlike the Severn Bridge (and the Severn Railway Bridge) which run (or ran) from England to England. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:46, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The point that I was making is that we include the whole length of the Severn Tunnel in the, we don't list the Welsh part under Gwent and the English part under Gloucestershire. Likewise, we should list the whole of teh Channel Tunnel, not just the part that is in UK territory (including territorial waters) and even less just the part that run under under English dry land.
Martinvl (talk) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mersey rail tunnels

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The longest tunnel on the Merseyrail metro runs from Birkenhead Park under the river, through Liverpool's centre and south to Brunswick station. It must be between 5 to 6 miles long. The Victoria/Waterloo tunnel is over 2 miles long while the Wapping tunnel of 1829 is 1.25 miles long. The article is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.5.105.195 (talk) 08:22, 11 May 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

This needs to be in the article. 152.37.91.195 (talk) 12:49, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria/Waterloo Tunnels

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These are one tunnel separated by an air shaft. Two separate names were given each side of the air shaft. I have made it into one tunnel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.5.105.195 (talk) 11:46, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wye Valley Railway Tunnels

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Suggest adding the following 2 railway tunnels mentioned in Wikipedia "Wye Valley Railway", but not listed.

Add to Gloucestershire: Tidenham Tunnel 1088m 1190yds Opened Nov 1876; closed to passenger traffic Jan 1959, freight Dec 1981 Reopened as cycleway and footpath Apr 2021<ref><https://greenwaysandcycleroutes.org/wye-valley-greenway/>.

Add to Gloucestershire: Tintern Tunnel 166m 182yds Opened Nov 1876; closed to passenger traffic Jan 1959, freight Jan 1964. Portals now gated / bricked up.

86.138.41.184 (talk) 14:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done The first statement is cited to a charity, which is not a neutral source and therefore not a WP:RS. I suggest finding a better source like a news article or academic journal. The second statement does not have a citation, so it is not added. Z1720 (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

query about the criteria for inclusion

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Given that some of the tunnels on this list are... not very long at all - and aren't worthy of articles of their own - what do people think of a minimum tunnel length of criteria for inclusion? I quite like following the info at the top of the page (0.1miles/160m), but I think I'd be okay with a minimum of 100m. (Obviously tunnels that are well referenced and verified enough for an article but are shorter than this length would remain in the list) What do people think? Turini2 (talk) 23:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I gave it 2 months - removed any tunnels shorter than 100m that do not have a valid wikipedia page. Turini2 (talk) 16:18, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Table heading

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'County' as a heading is too ambiguous being less specific. Will change to better fitting location. 188.213.137.9 (talk) 11:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Following comments by @Ehrenkater, I think that's a reasonable change. I would not be supportive of changing locations to exact places (e.g. Birkenhead) rather than general regions, counties etc (e.g. Merseyside). That detail would sit best in the individual article about the tunnel in question. Turini2 (talk) 16:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally, it would be informative to show the exact location in the table rather than just the county (especially in parts of the UK where the county has changed several times and there are principal areas, regions etc.) However I realise that
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