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Fender VI
[edit]This article states that they used a Fender VI, but in many books and even on Let It Be itself you can see that they do not use a fender VI. I hope someone changes this. Vash The Stampede 22:38, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
yes- the article as-is is correct. they did have a fender VI, but george laments during the session audio tapes that he can't play bass & sing at the same time, & in this clip he's clearly playing the bass line on his telecaster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzHzIRuXnnQ duncanrmi (talk) 12:45, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Playboy interview
[edit]At least for those who have heard the tapes recorded by David Sheff for Playboy in 1980, it's obvious that the reason Lennon took credit for writing this song, is because he misunderstood the question. He seems to have thought Mr. Sheff was still talking about the song 'Don't Let Me Down'. My theory is that when Sheff moved on to ask about 'Two of us', Lennon thought he said "who it was?"(or something like that..), whereupon Lennon answered "mine".192.153.194.200 (talk) 18:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
The tape supposedly reveals that Lennon completely disregards the question, and keeps talking about 'Don't Let Me Down' the whole way through. He doesn't even say 'mine', as stated in the written interview(And the 'All We Are Saying' book). It seems to only have been an assumption on David Sheff's part. --192.153.194.200 (talk) 15:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Besides, when Lennon was interviewed by Hit Parader in 1972, he attributed the song in its entirety to McCartney.--84.208.224.234 (talk) 15:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I can't find "Two of us" in the text of the Playboy interview transcribed from the original magazine issue (http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/dbjypb.int1.html). Who can confirm this reference ? If this part was never printed but only recorded on the tapes, you should mention it.--86.197.172.127 (talk) 15:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Me again... I've just read that page : http://www.geocities.com/donaldsauter/yellow-submarine.htm. Scroll down to the end of the page... Donald Sauter writes that this claim from Lennon was printed in David Sheff's book (and not in Playboy Magazine) but was NOT recorded on the tapes ! So it seems to be a mistake. I think you should correct this point (I will not, being only a french Wikipedia user).--86.197.172.127 (talk) 15:46, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- The article indicates that Lennon may have been distracted. Given that Sheff is one of the main sources of what Lennon said he wrote, I don't think that section should be changed. Someone with the Hit Parader article could add a statement about that, and if there is a reliable source--not WP:OR--that describes that portion of the tapes, then that could be included and cited.
- In general, remember that we are recording evidence, not our interpretation of evidence and/or truth. The Sheff evidence is pretty clear, but anyone who thinks Sheff--or Lennon--was infallible is beyond help anyway. — John Cardinal (talk) 22:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Advert
[edit]Here's something to be noted, although I have no sources. Maybe someone else does?
In the UK there is a general refusal to allow Beatles recordings to be broadcast on TV adverts. The first of very small number which I know of was "Two of Us", in the early 1980s. The repeated lines "we're on our way home" were used in a Shell garages advert, and it was the original Beatles recording. I don't know where to find this info in a reliable source though. 217.43.81.99 (talk) 09:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Time signature, and the obscure early version
[edit]Notice this song uses 4/4, 3/4 and occasionally 2/4. The early up-tempo, electric-guitar version is interesting, at least to the writer of the message you are reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.102.56.146 (talk) 18:54, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Whistling part is outro of Hello, Goodbye?
[edit]Is the whistling part of the outro inspired by the outro of Hello, Goodbye? I can't find a mention in either MacDonald, Revolution in the Head, or Lewisohn, The Complete Beatles Chronology. Did someone find a reference of this, since they sound too similar to me not to be a coincidence? CBJH (talk) 13:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Genesis of the lyric
[edit]In The Lyrics, McCartney’s two volume book if 2021, (p. 737), Paul identifies the song having its roots as much in the shared memories of him and his wife Linda, as it was in the apparent connection with John Lennon. However, some of the lyrics relate to boyhood memories so perhaps, as usual with McCartney, there is ambiguity and reappraisal. One thing is clear: it is not about the then current contractual fallout of the Beatles break-up; the lyric is entirely retrospective. Spycoops (talk) 16:08, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 15 February 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Two of Us (Beatles song). (non-admin closure) Colin M (talk) 19:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Two of Us (song) → Two of Us (The Beatles song) – A partially disambiguated title doesn't seem helpful in this case. As significant as the Beatles are, this isn't primary over the other two existing articles for notable songs, both of which are currently fully disambiguated—"Two of Us" (Birds of Tokyo song) and "Two of Us" (Louis Tomlinson song). "Two of Us (song)" should thus be redirected to Two of Us and tagged as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. Two of Us (song) is indeed incomplete disambiguation and should certainly redirect to the Two of Us#Songs disambiguation page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:25, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support but use Two of Us (Beatles song) like the others in Category:The Beatles songs. The Beatles song has 6,971 views but the Louis Tomlinson song has 1,236 and the Birds of Tokyo song has 50[[1]]. Even though the Beatles song probably has more long-term significance partial disambiguatin should generally only be used in exceptional cases. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:43, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Move to Two of Us (Beatles song) per above. 162 etc. (talk) 17:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. Crouch spells out exactly why this shouldn't be moved. Calidum 19:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Although my above vote states "Support per nomination", I would not oppose Two of Us (song) → Two of Us (Beatles song), per Crouch, Swale. I would also not oppose the move of the handful of titles under Category:The Beatles songs that use the parenthetical qualifier "(Beatles songs)" so that those qualifiers indicated "(The Beatles songs)", which is the form used by the category's own main title header as well as the header for the main article, The Beatles. Each group's name form has its own history, such as the header forms with qualifiers used under Category:The Beach Boys songs. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:08, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Move to Two of Us (Beatles song) per Crouch. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:39, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support it's by the Beatles and other articles, we only break the rules on Wikipedia for Michael Jackson - for his services to mankind. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Mortimer
[edit]the article says the Mortimer version was "never" released. I believe it was - a CD of their aborted Apple album came out a few years ago with Two Of Us on it. 176.26.245.161 (talk) 07:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Possibly not a Paul only song?
[edit]I the movie 'Get Back', it is shown that this song was origionally a Quarrymen song. That was John's original band. It actually sounds more like a Lennon song with a McCartney chorus. I think this needs further consideration. I have seen too many hijacks of Lennon-McCartney songs taking 100% Paul credit. CRossi05 (talk) 20:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)